Finally! Florida Amendment 2 list of donors.

From the Bilerico Project: Map Showing Supporters of Florida's Amendment 2 Hits the Web
Filed by: Waymon Hudson
February 7, 2009 1:00 PM

A new website called Marriage4All.org has launched with a handy, searchable database and map so you can find out who in your area gave money to take away the rights of others. But this site provides more than just names of contributors, it also has information on conflict resolution and how to approach those around you to talk about the real impact of Amendment 2.

It's not retribution, it's about changing minds and holding people accountable.

From Marriage4All.org

This website was created in response to the passage of Amendment 2 in the State of Florida. In November 2008, Amendment 2 was passed with 62.1% of the vote. This action by Florida voters has enshrined hatred and discrimination as a part of the Florida Constitution.

Amendment 2:
"This amendment protects marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife and provides that no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized."

Related links:

Those who signed the Amendment 2 petition:
http://knowthyneighbor.org/florida/

John Stemberger's Florida4marriage used "Dutch Study" to dupe gullible pastors and church goers.

John Stemberger: “If I blow my brains out”.

Quick, look over here, it's all about gays!

Florida October Surprise

I just received my sample “absentee” election ballot in the mail. Here is its full text, as printed on the ballot (italics mine):

NO. 2
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT
ARTICLE I, NEW SECTION

Florida Marriage Protection Amendment
This amendment protects marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife and provides that no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.

The direct financial impact this amendment will have on state and local government revenues and expenditures cannot be determined, but is expected to be minor.

I'm looking for a copy of the ballot online to offer objective verification, but so far, this is the best I can do. And that page comes from the Florida Division of Elections itself, which appears to be as official as it gets as far as Florida elections/ballots go.
~~~There are six numbered amendments, and one non-numbered referendum on this ballot. NONE of the other amendments, nor the referendum include that fiscal disclaimer.

At first I was wondering if I was the only one who missed that biased little tidbit (for the past 3 years), until I ran across the official signature form, which can be accessed at the state elections site (see above).

That page is from the website Florida4Marriage.org, which is now, and redirects to, Yes2Marriage.org, which, of course, doesn't include a copy of the original signature form, because no additional signatures are necessary, as the amendment is already on the ballot, hence the reason for the words you are reading right now.

Apparently the first site (F4M) was designed to get the signatures, and the second (Y2M) to get the votes.

Granted, had that VERY RECENTLY ADDED fiscal disclaimer been on the signature form, they would have gotten even more support.

So yes, I guess I'm a complete hypocrite, and I'm crying "BIAS!", just like the anti-gay activists did in California when the same thing was done in our favor.

The difference is, it wasn't sprung on them at the last minute.

Oh, AND, not to mention that they're part of the same band of UN-Christian lying SOS's who make a mockery of everything that this country stands for.

John Stemberger's Florida4marriage used "Dutch Study" to dupe gullible pastors and church goers.

From the now defunct florida4marriage.org, led by John Stemberger -- leader of the Florida anti-marriage movement -- the "Dutch Study" (Via Glenn Stanton of Focus of the Family) was used to portray gay people as being inherently promiscuous:

Is Marriage in Jeopardy?
August 27, 2003
by Glenn T. Stanton

Q: But doesn’t expanding marriage to include homosexuals actually help strengthen marriage?

A: Just the opposite. There is recent evidence from the Netherlands, arguably the most “gay-friendly” culture on earth, that homosexual men have a very difficult time honoring the ideal of marriage. Even though same-sex “marriage” is legal there, a British medical journal reports male homosexual relationships last, on average, 1.5 years, and gay men have an average of eight partners a year outside of their supposedly “committed” relationships.

However, as BoxTurtleBulletin notes (bold mine):

--This study was not about gay relationships, as most people who misuse this study claims. Its purpose was to study how HIV is transmitted in the Dutch population. That’s why the study was based only on those with HIV/AIDS attending STD clinics. It is no more generalizable to the general LGBT population than heterosexuals with STD’s are representative of straight people overall.

--This study excluded everyone over thirty — the prime age in which people are more likely to settle down and marry.

--“Relationships” weren’t defined. Anything including a second date to a lifetime commitment could be counted. You simply cannot compare that to straight couples who are married as the FRC does. FRC cites the study as taking place in a country with “legalized homosexual marriage”, but the Netherlands didn’t have anything like it when the study ended in 1998.

Registered partnerships for same-sex and opposite-sex couples didn’t begin until October 1, 1999. A limited form of same-sex marriage wasn’t available until 2001.

--And this is the most important point of all: Because the purpose of the study was to look at how AIDS is transmitted, all monogamous couples were specifically excluded from the study. Because monogamous couples aren’t transmitting HIV, they would have been completely irrelevant to the study’s goals.

These "Christians," John Stemberger and Glenn Stanton, have been using a study that EXCLUDED monogamous gay couples to show that gay couples are not monogamous!

AND THEY'RE STILL DOING IT!
From Focus on the Family: Marriage on the Ropes:

Studies show that homosexual men, in particular, have a difficult time honoring even the most basic commitments of "marriage." A recent study conducted in the Netherlands — a "progressive" nation in which gay marriage has been legal for several years — found that the average homosexual relationship lasts only 1.5 years, and that gay men have an average of eight sexual partners per year outside of their "primary" relationship!

Related post: Florida (Yes on 2) anti-marriage movement uses "Dutch Study" to further their cause.
~~~~Studies like these need to be sought out and carefully edited - meaning that the deception is willful.

So to all you "Christians" and pastors out there who feel that intentional dishonesty is acceptable to your "Lord Jesus Christ," just remember, this is your witness to the rest of we "lost," "confused," and "damned to hell for all eternity" homosexuals.

including to those of us who already happen to be 'unthinkably Christian' as well!

Florida (Yes on 2) anti-marriage movement uses "Dutch Study" to further their cause.

Hi, I'm John Stemberger, and apparently I approve of this message:

What Harm Would Same Sex Marriage Do? By Peter Sprigg (Color PDF Brochure)

One study in the Netherlands showed that homosexual men with a steady partner had an average of eight sexual partners per year. [...] The same Dutch study that showed the high rate of homosexual promiscuity also showed that the average homosexual male “partnership” lasts only 1.5 years.

You can read more about the Dutch Study here.

Most importantly (IMO), is that monogamous gay couples WERE EXCLUDED from the study altogether! But of course, they don't say that, yet the study continues to be used to show that ALL gay men with "steady partner[s]" are promiscuous (and thus, not a good environment for raising children).

Meaning, that John Stemberger, and the "Christian" Florida anti-marriage movement, are willing to LIE (in the name of Jesus of course).

John Stemberger: “If I blow my brains out”

John Stemberger, leader of the anti-marriage amendment in Florida, attempts to explain how the law of cause and effect -- in and of itself -- is how gay marriage will ruin his marriage:

Arthelene Rippy: Let’s go back a little bit to this equal…equal rights question, which always comes up. So they would say, how, if this same-sex couple is married, how does that affect John Stemberger’s marriage?

John Stemberger: Right. Well, you know, I gotta tell you Ar--one of the things I appreciate about you and this show is, is that you have a holistic understanding of home and family. So many of us compartmentalize everything, as if ‘politics’ is here our ‘family’s’ here, our ‘religion’s’ here, and never the tw--see that’s a very secular view. And the Bible sees life as an integrated whole, we do all thi--everything we do we do to the glory of God. And so you understand that and I really appreciate that. And so it does have an impact. Private behavior, does have public consequences.

And so, we have laws against suicide. Well why is that? Well because I’m connected to, a woman in a marriage, I’m connected to a family with children, I’m connected to a business, a community, an economic system. If I blow my brains out, somebody’s got to come and pay for that and clean it up. There’s a cost -- to things -- and we don’t just live in an isolated situation.

Hillary had it partly right, it doesn’t take a village--it takes a family and a community. But the idea is we need each other, and our private behavior does have public consequences, and the State’s police power is important enough, and this an important enough--legitimate enough issue to use law and public policy to regulate the definition of marriage.

~~~That said, these are some of our allies:

Equality Florida

SayNo2.com (formerly floridaredandblue.com), which seems to be more active than EQ as far as fighting the amendment is concerned.

And as a little birdie just told me, you may also want to check out votenoon2.com. So far, I like their style.

And don’t forget about Florida's KnowThyNeighbor.org, where you can search for the names of those who've signed the petition. (note: not all the names may be on there, some have been turned in since that list was first provided.)
~~~And just to share, my brother and his wife signed to get that amendment on the ballot. No surprise there (as they're AG), but it would seem that the rest of my family couldn’t care less how offensive that is to me.

I no longer speak to my family.

This November, tell unmarried couples what you really think of them.

For more information visit Florida4marriage and Yes2marriage.

Without your vote, their legal contracts will still be binding.