Showing posts with label CA Ruling. Show all posts
Showing posts with label CA Ruling. Show all posts

Monday, November 10, 2008

The “L” Word… Use it or lose it.

Courtesy NG,

(paraphrased):
On Thursday, 11/6, This is video of a press conference that occurred Thursday in Los Angeles with Lorri Jean of the Los Angeles Gay And Lesbian Center announcing a new website, www.invalidateprop8.com and a call to action.



Full transcript:

Lorri Jean of the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center:

Good afternoon.

This Tuesday, by a very slim margin, the voters of California passed Proposition 8, in an effort to strip an entire group of people of their fundamental right to marry. That slim margin passed this proposition for one reason and one reason only. They fell victim to campaign of lies and deceit that was perpetrated by the Yes on 8 forces.

campaign of lies and deception was immoral and reprehensible. With malice of forethought, the Yes on 8 campaign lied to California voters, and they started right from the very beginning.

Their very first ad said “Churches would lose their tax exemption,” if Proposition 8 did not pass. A lie.

Their second claim, was that ministers would be prosecuted if Proposition 8 did not pass, and they did not agree with the right to marry. Again, an absolute lie.

Third, they claimed that schools would be required to teach children about gay marriage if Proposition 8 did not pass. Another complete falsehood.

And you don’t have to take my word for it. You can look at many of the newspapers throughout the state, who exposed this campaign of lies and distortions for what it was, like the LA Times. But you didn’t have to be in an urban area like LA, the
Fresno Bee, not a paragon of liberal thought, called their campaign “a flat lie.”

Also, a prominent Mormon legal scholar issued a
memorandum analyzing all of their claims, and found them to be false and misleading, attorney Morris Thurston. And in fact, many fair minded Mormons, many fair minded members of the LDS Church are very upset that Proposition has passed, and are equally upset by the deceptive and false campaign that was run by the Yes on 8 forces.

They even stooped so low as to send a campaign mailer, targeted to African Americans, with Barack Obama’s picture on it, implying that Barack Obama supported Proposition 8, when they knew full well that Barack Obama has come out against Proposition 8. That is the kind of lying and deception that helped them cleave to a very small margin on Tuesday.

And they took this dirty campaigning to a new low in our state. And how were they able to do this? They were able to do this, because the majority of the donations that came to the Yes on 8 campaign, came from members of the Mormon Church. And not on their own initiative, but at the direction, the express direction of the president of the Mormon Church.
He sent a letter, and instructed it that it be read in every Mormon congregation, directing members of his church to get involved this campaign. And so, from all over the country, they flooded the Yes on 8 coffers with money, to run this lying and deceitful campaign.

We are here today to decry those lies. To expose them for what they are. And the LDS Church members were not the only ones. Other, conservative, religious, anti-gay organizations from outside of our state, did similar things. Like
Focus on the Family, or the national office in Connecticut of the Knights of Columbus.

These organizations are entitled to their views, but they are not entitled to run campaigns of lies and deceit, and try to impose their views upon the civil law in the state of California.

We have a separation of church and state in our nation for a reason, and it is to stop those kinds of things. Our nation was founded on the principle that no minority should ever be subject to the tyranny of the majority when it comes to fundamental rights. What has happened with Proposition 8, sets a very dangerous precedent. For the first time in our nation, one group has voted to take away the fundamental rights of a smaller group, and that is wrong and disturbing, and it makes me wonder, who is next? Who’s fundamental rights will a conservative church, from out of state, focus on next?

We should all be protected by our constitution. And we are here today to announce a new campaign. We are not going quietly.

Yesterday, some of the finest attorneys in the state of California joined by the city of Los Angeles, filed suit in the California Supreme Court, to invalidate Proposition 8, as an improper way to amend our constitution, and subjugate a small group of people to the discriminatory will of the majority.

I believe that a majority of Californians would not have voted for this measure if they had known the truth. If they had not been lied to and deceived by the Yes on 8 campaign, funded mostly by donations from member of the Mormon Church.

So, today, we have decided to included the president of the Mormon Church in a campaign that is more productive for our community. We are going to raise money to fight the--to support the effort to repeal Proposition 8. And we are urging people to make donations on our new website,
www.invalidateprop8.org. And for every donor who makes a donation, even a small donation of $5, a postcard in the name of that donor, will be sent to President Thomas Monson of the LDS Church, and I want to read to you what that postcard says:

“Dear President Monson:

A donation has been made in your name by (and we will insert the person’s name), to “invalidateprop8.org” to overturn California's Proposition 8 and restore fundamental civil rights to all citizens of California. The money will be donated to legal organizations fighting the case and to support grass-roots efforts in support of full marriage equality. Although we decry the reprehensible role that the Church Latter Day Saints leadership played in denying all Californians equal rights under the law, we are pleased a donation has been made on your behalf to the effort to overturn the discrimination your church members helped enshrine in the California Constitution. Given that throughout its history the Mormon Church has been subjected to bigotry, we hope you appreciate the donation in your name to fight religious bigotry here in California.

Saturday, November 1, 2008

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

Brought to you by: Embedding disabled by request

YES on Proposition 8 (Prop 8) for our kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlItG4raicA
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A sampling of the comments:

~ this is gross....someone call childrens aid

~ I don't think anything has made me want to punch a baby more :

~ Oh...Oh god...How dare the use children like that!

~ Oh, hi child exploitation.

~ this is fucking terrible.

~ Those poor children.

~ talk about indoctrination.

~ excuse me while I vomit up my lunch in the corner.

~ frankly, at times I wish your God were real, because the thought of you roasting in hell for manipulating these innocent children is a pleasant one.

~ This is like bizarro sesame street. I wish I could vote 0 on a video.

~ There really is no low to which this side won't sink.


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Update (re NG):

Support your local orphanage, prevent adoption while you still can.

Thursday, June 19, 2008

Sisterlisa of Apples of Gold Ministries: Gay couples responsible for CA wildfires.

Sisterlisa of Apples of Gold ministries writes an hackneyed diatribe article called "Marriage Defined."

She begins with:
This last week I was speaking to my husband about our marriage series here at Apples of Gold and something really weighed heavy on my heart. […] Yet, now for some reason a Superior Court judge in the state of California thinks he can change that law on his own…

Actually I believe it was four judges who (oh who cares)...

She continues:
I personally use one book as my text in regards to this issue in life and that is the Holy Bible.

And continues:
If same gender relationships continue and become legal... [...] Where do you draw the line? I know where God draws His line!

Leviticus 20:13, " If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." KJV

And continues:
How can we overlook these commands from the Lord and say it is left to your own interpretation?

And...
Drum Roll
continues...
I live in the state of California and this state is about to make a seriously unwise decision in allowing these marriages [...] Now has anyone else noticed that mid-June is also the time that the state of California also suffered severe loss due to fires?

First of all Sisterlisa, according to anti-gay industry protocol, you're supposed to put the word marriage in "quotes," in order to denote, without saying so, that our love is fake (ie; gay "marriage").

Secondly, to suggest that bad things happen to "bad states," is to imply a belief in statewide karma, which I don't think you meant to do. Clearly, bad things do not necessarily happen to people who have been bad, and good things do not necessarily happen to people who have been good. So why would an all knowing and just God of love feel that the best way to communicate with an already confused and fearful human electorate, was through the pronunciation of natural disasters?

Thirdly, do you really believe that gay men should be "put to death" as God's Word commands?

If so, say so. If not, then how am I to respect that your beliefs about gay marriage are truly based on the Bible, as opposed to just coinciding with the Bible?

Or does that even matter to you?

Thursday, June 5, 2008

California Supreme Court: "Gay couples will begin marrying in California in less than two weeks"

Opponents had petitioned the court to delay its decision until Californians vote on a November ballot initiative that would define marriage as between a man and a woman. The court ruled 4-3 not to stay its May 15 decision.
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The Anti-Gay Industry immediately released this statement in response:
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"Just because we're against gay couples, doesn't mean we don't love homosexuals."

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Friday, May 30, 2008

Exodus International on California gay marriage: People will think it's "ok."

(Alan Chambers and Chris Fabry answer each other in conversational silhouette)

Alan Chambers on the Chris Fabry show:

@ the 21:04 mark:

Chris Fabry: At the same time, when you talk to the younger generation, I think they are a little more malleable, and they will say, you know, 'if a person loves another person, what’s the problem with that?' And I keep coming back to, as this issue has come up in the last couple of days - changing the definition of anything is dangerous, and when you change the definition of marriage from one man to one woman, to same-sex couples, what could follow after that? Isn’t that the main public policy problem that we’re facing?

Alan Chambers: It is. I think that one of the most dangerous things that we can do is to redefine something as natural and defined already as marriage. Because the next generation does look at these things and say, 'see, the law has now changed, homosexuality is now proven legally as the equivalent of heterosexuality, therefore it’s ok.' And I think so many people do get their moral guidelines and use the government as their moral compass, and in this regard, it falls way short of God’s standard on this issue.

To distill it further...

Chris Fabry: If a person loves another person, what could follow after that?

Alan Chambers: Homosexuality is now proven legally as the equivalent of heterosexuality, therefore it’s ok.

Thus, according to Exodus, the 'moral' consequences of same-sex marriage is that people will think it's ok.

Friday, May 23, 2008

The PA '08 slither factor.


By Rick Santorum

Bigot! Hate-monger! Homophobe!

Those were just a few of the terms hurled my way in 2003 when I said that the Supreme Court's Texas sodomy decision opened the door to the redefinition of marriage.

Fortunately California voters will have a chance to overturn this radical decision by voting for a state marriage amendment in November. Shouldn't voters in Pennsylvania have the same right?

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Supreme Court's Texas sodomy decision = the court reverses course from a ruling that states could punish homosexuals

Rick Santorum: "California voters will have a chance to overturn this radical decision"

"Shouldn't voters in Pennsylvania have the same right?"

prison bars

As an American, there was no way to anticipate the cleverness of Ellen DeGeneres.

Who could have known she had a daily talk show?


Which is precisely why I feel I am most qualified to protect you, your family, and those you love most, from the terrorists.


I'm John McCain and I approve of this message.*

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*Not John McCain and does not approve of this message.

Peter LaBarbera:

Here lies the face of the "modern tragedy of “gay” parenthood"

Sunday, May 18, 2008

Focus on the Family: No seriously, we made this within 24 hrs of the CA ruling.

And now for a sneak peak into the Focus on the Family "has its own zip-code" Headquarters…

Pay no attention to the red curtain behind the man:




Hi, I’m Stuart Shepard, this is Stoplight.

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Woman: What if?

Man: What if?

Stuart Shepard: What if a court ruled that it’s unconstitutional to say that only H2O can be water?

What if judges declared it just wasn’t fair to oxygen… (“pours” empty glass of air into another empty glass (of air))

And hydrogen… ("fills" upside down glass with contents of an inflated balloon.)

So it mandated that all three are now…water.

Second woman: What if?

Third woman: What if?

Stuart Shepard: What if public schools were forced to teach it?

Original Man (now as teacher): Today we are going to study the properties of water.

It is at room temperature, a liquid. It is also a gas that you can breathe. And, it is lighter than air, and highly flammable. And that is the reason that the Hindenburg went up in flames, it was full of water.

Second man: What if?

Fourth woman: What if?

Stuart Shepard: What if ordinary people were confused by the change?

First woman: I don’t know why my plant’s not growing, I water it every day. (pretends to pour water onto dead plant with empty watering can)

Stuart Shepard: What if the health department made restaurants follow the law?

First woman (now as waitress): Alright sweetie, here’s your spaghetti, and your sweet tea. (delivers uncooked spaghetti on plate, and glass of powdered tea)

Stuart Shepard: Thank you. (*CRUNCH* - Shepard cuts into uncooked spaghetti with fork)

As an astute stoplight viewer, you already know this is not a hypothetical, it’s…California.

And it isn’t water, it’s marriage.