Friday, May 30, 2008

Exodus International on California gay marriage: People will think it's "ok."

(Alan Chambers and Chris Fabry answer each other in conversational silhouette)

Alan Chambers on the Chris Fabry show:

@ the 21:04 mark:

Chris Fabry: At the same time, when you talk to the younger generation, I think they are a little more malleable, and they will say, you know, 'if a person loves another person, what’s the problem with that?' And I keep coming back to, as this issue has come up in the last couple of days - changing the definition of anything is dangerous, and when you change the definition of marriage from one man to one woman, to same-sex couples, what could follow after that? Isn’t that the main public policy problem that we’re facing?

Alan Chambers: It is. I think that one of the most dangerous things that we can do is to redefine something as natural and defined already as marriage. Because the next generation does look at these things and say, 'see, the law has now changed, homosexuality is now proven legally as the equivalent of heterosexuality, therefore it’s ok.' And I think so many people do get their moral guidelines and use the government as their moral compass, and in this regard, it falls way short of God’s standard on this issue.

To distill it further...

Chris Fabry: If a person loves another person, what could follow after that?

Alan Chambers: Homosexuality is now proven legally as the equivalent of heterosexuality, therefore it’s ok.

Thus, according to Exodus, the 'moral' consequences of same-sex marriage is that people will think it's ok.

Monday, May 26, 2008

Alan Chambers on preventing gay suicide: They're not told it's a choice.

Alan Chambers on Chris Fabry Live

May 16, 2008

Plenty to pick from with this interview, but this tail end below begins @ the 25:40 mark:
Chris Fabry: We had another email that talked about, especially teenagers, and how many teenagers are caught in this emotional trauma, and how many take their own lives because of the homosexual issue. You were a teenager caught in that too weren’t you?

Alan Chambers: I was a teenager, you know the bulk of my struggle was during my teenage years, from about 11 to 21 or so, and I understand feeling like the only way out is you kill yourself. In fact one of the things that made me want to die -- was when I heard, there is no way out of this, this is your only option, there is no other choice, in fact there is no choice - you are who you are and that won’t ever change. And I thought, that can’t be the truth, and if it is, I can’t live this way. But the amazing thing was, and the thing that changed my life, wasn’t that I was told change was possible, the thing that changed my life was God said I love you no matter what, and I’m going to help you out of this, and that makes all the difference in the world. And I think that’s our job as Christians, the ‘Jesus with skin on,’ is to help people feel like they have an option. That God loves them no matter what, and that He absolutely has a plan and a way for us to deal with these very complex issues.

Chris Fabry: Alan Chambers is president of Exodus International, it is the largest evangelical organization dealing with this topic in the world today. He has written a book called “God’s Grace and the Homosexual Next Door.” And Alan I thank you for coming on with us today, it’s been very helpful.

Alan Chambers: My pleasure Chris, thank you.

Obviously if preventing suicide means that telling gay teens that their own human-sexuality is 100% choice, then clearly teaching them that they are the equivalent of pedophiles will help to prevent even more suicides:

Exodus International: Is there a connection between homosexuality and predatory behavior, like pedophilia?

If they don't respond to that, make sure to tell them that they are responsible for the Holocaust:

Homosexuality and the Nazi Party

Any remaining gay-teen suicides should easily prevented by the wisdom in his book: "God's Grace and the Homosexual Next Door."

Which, tucked waaaay at the back on page 218 we find:
Alan Chambers: "This is why I believe that it is so important to clarify that just living a celibate gay life is just as sinful as living a sexually promiscuous one. The sin is in identifying with anything that is contrary to Christ, which homosexuality clearly is."

Thus, according to the Christian morality of Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International, the reason gay teens commit suicide, is because no one is offering them "the option" of a lifetime of perpetual lonliness and shame.

Friday, May 23, 2008

The PA '08 slither factor.


By Rick Santorum

Bigot! Hate-monger! Homophobe!

Those were just a few of the terms hurled my way in 2003 when I said that the Supreme Court's Texas sodomy decision opened the door to the redefinition of marriage.

Fortunately California voters will have a chance to overturn this radical decision by voting for a state marriage amendment in November. Shouldn't voters in Pennsylvania have the same right?

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Supreme Court's Texas sodomy decision = the court reverses course from a ruling that states could punish homosexuals

Rick Santorum: "California voters will have a chance to overturn this radical decision"

"Shouldn't voters in Pennsylvania have the same right?"

prison bars

As an American, there was no way to anticipate the cleverness of Ellen DeGeneres.

Who could have known she had a daily talk show?


Which is precisely why I feel I am most qualified to protect you, your family, and those you love most, from the terrorists.


I'm John McCain and I approve of this message.*

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*Not John McCain and does not approve of this message.

R. E. Aguirre: "homosexuality is punishable by death"

Homosexuality is an abomination according to the natural grammar of the text in Leviticus,

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination"10.

Footnote #10 goes to:
10. (Lev 18:22). A few chapters later we are told that homosexuality is punishable by death (Ibid 20:13).

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R. E. Aguirre, promoter of MASS MURDER, May 21 2008, 7:10 PM