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I say Let’s talk about your characterization of this as "not wanting to talk about it."

http://mikeensley.vox.com/library/post/pretending-the-debate-is-over.html

Mike Ensley: If there are some folks who need to censor, stigmatize, call names--that only leads me to ask, who are they really trying to convince? My guess: themselves.

Mike Ensley: None of that changes the fact that people who struggle with homosexuality don't have to embrace it. They can live differently, love differently, and find happiness and wholeness on another path. People can and people do. That's all I need to know.

How? How Mike? How can they love differently?

How can they LOVE differently?

Mike Ensley: But you've got to suspect why some can't abide even the possibility of discussing ex-gay lives and views.

Yet you state yourself that you continue to experience same-sex attraction.

From the hideously--virulently-anti-gay Day of Truth website you say: "As a single guy who continues to experience h same-sex attractions"

And from your own Exodus Youth Truth and Tolerance DVD you say: "Do I still feel, homosexual attractions? Um, yeah."

Mike Ensley: People can and people do. That's all I need to know.

So be it. But I would ask, how is it possible that you can feel responsible for offering and defending something that you do not even have for yourself?

Citizenlink Turn Signal with Kim Trobee (As opposed to Stoplight with Stuart Shepard)

Canceled Symposium Silences Christian View on Homosexuality

Kim Trobee: Alright, for awhile there, it looked like gay activists would finally sit down with pro-family leaders, to discuss homosexuality and therapy.

The American Psychiatric Association had planned an event that featured gay-bishop Gene Robinson, and president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary Al Mohler. But when Robinson felt pressure from gay activists, the APA quickly caved, cancelling the event, and any discussion.

In fact, the Washington Times quoted symposium organizer David Scasta, excusing his organization by saying: "It [the symposium] was a way to have a balanced discussion about religion, and how it influences therapy … We wanted to talk rationally, calmly, and respectfully to each other, but the external forces made it into a divisive debate it never intended to be."

Gay activist groups often claim they want to reach out to people of faith, but Randy Thomas with Exodus International says pulling the plug, doesn’t exactly encourage open dialogue.

We talked to him via webcam:

Randy Thomas: And it’s pretty amazing, that if they’re truly wanting to be as diverse as they claim, they would accept people who have a different perspective on faith with regard to this issue.

Kim Trobee: Randy, Exodus is seeing more and more people, questioning their same-sex attractions, and wanting to live out their faith, but are we doing a disservice to them if we say that they can’t get the help that they seek?

Randy Thomas: Absolutely, I think the APA has gone from a psychiatric association, to the American Politically Correct Association. They have abandoned the tenent (sic) of self determination, and for people like myself, who want to live according to their faith tenents (sic), they’re abandoning us. And it’s a sad situation when a professional organization is not willing to look at the truth. And the truth is, for 16 years, I have lived according to my faith, I have not identified as gay, and my sexual orientation has changed.

Kim Trobee: Thomas says the canceled debate underscores just who’s willing to come to the table and offer their best argument, and, who’s not.
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"to refer to someone who is transgendered by their birth name is neither insulting nor disparaging"

Bad question #4: "What is, or was, your "real" name?"
(@ the 4:12 mark)

This question’s a biggie. My real name is Calpernia Addams, dumbass. What are you really asking here?

When people ask me this question, what I hear, is that you either consider my current identity to be:

A Fabrication
A Lie
A Put-on
A Costume
Or a Joke…

…and you want to get at the "real" truth, behind who I "really" am.

Implication -- a man.

Or, um, they just want to have something to hold on to, to put me back in my place; "Who do you think you are Calpernia, pretending to be a woman? I know your real name, and you’ll always be ‘Frank Smith’ or, ‘Butch Jones' or, whatever to me."

Youu ;)

Well don’t ask this, it’s none of your business.

“Hey, but everybody knows that Marilyn Monroe’s old name was Norma Jean, c’mon Calpernia, we just wanna know.”

Well dumbf**k, when you know Marilyn’s old name, it still doesn’t changer her gender in your mind. She’s still a woman, whether you call her Norma Jean, or Marilyn Monroe.

When you talk to a transwoman about her old name, it’s overlaying a perception of gender onto her -- using that name -- that is very hurtful, and rude.

You know, most all of us in the public eye, eventually have our old names, photographs, and identities, outed by someone from our past. It happens, and I’ve been through a lot in my life, and I can handle it when it does.

All the same though, I just want you know, that when you ask this question, or when you use that old information, I’M HATING YOU, WITH A BURNING, WHITE HOT, DESTRUCTIVE HATRED, THAT’S WARMER THAN THE DEEPEST FIREY PITS OF THE LOWES LEVEL OF HELL.

“Hey, but so and so told me their name. I know the tranny who does my nails at the mall, and she told me right away that her name used to be Bob.”

Well, a lot of transwomen lack validation in their lives. Nobody is ever telling them “Good job!”, or “You look great!”, or much of anything. So they’re left feeling eager to please. They want to say anything, just to get a pat on the back. And this is a very sad situation that a lot of transwomen find themselves in.

So, maybe they told you their old name, just because they wanted your approval. I feel bad for these women in that situation, and I really feel bad that you’re such a low-life scum-bag that you would exploit their need, just to dig a little piece of dirty information out of ‘em.

Ah ah ah, that’s pretty bad of you…

~~~~"to refer to someone who is transgendered by their birth name is neither insulting nor disparaging"

Right Wing Watch video list of notable quotables.

Right Wing Watch (A Project of People For the American Way) has put together a video list of sound bites from a recent Coral Ridge Ministries broadcast, whose panelists consisted of:

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council
Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel
Jordan Lorence of the Alliance Defense Fund
Gary DeMar of American Vision

Here’s the video (and ps, check out the bug eye shot at the 16 second mark, especially visible in the YouTube HQ version):

Religious Right Tells Pastors Christianity Being Suppressed


And here’s the transcript:

Host: There is a phenomenon today of sexual politics. Abortion is a symptom of sexual politics, the militant homosexual agenda is a symptom of sexual politics. It has been said that sexual politics is on a collision course with religious liberty. And that whenever sexual politics, or religious liberty, are fighting against each other, it seems like sexual politics always trumps religious liberty.

Mat Staver: There is this attempt to suppress Christian viewpoints, and I think the right of conscience of Christians, is a critical battle that we’re facing.

Jordan Lorence: This is not some, like, side issue, the right-wing agenda side issue, or something like that. But now what is happening is, is we’re getting cases, where if people speak out against, and say this is God’s standard on marriage and sexual morality [Host: Thirty seconds], they’re being silenced, by hate crime legislation, by anti-discrimination law.

Mat Staver: What I hear from some of these individuals is that if you have a religious, but particularly a Christian view, you’re not welcome, it’s a second class citizen, and they want to suppress that. And following up on what Jordan was saying, the agenda that he was talking about in terms of the sexual politics, the homosexual agenda - is not about tolerance, it’s about absolute dominance of that worldview against any other worldview, particularly Christian, that says people have morality, and marriage is between a man and woman. That’s what the clash is, is to dominate that worldview.

Tony Perkins: And the idea that there should be no religious test that would preclude people who have a certain religious denomination affiliation, from serving in government, that has been turned on it’s head [Host: Yes, yes.] to say that if you have a particular faith or denomination, in which you actually believe it, and you apply it to your lives, therefore, if that’s the case, you can’t serve in government. You have to somehow choose between actually believing what you believe, and serving in government. That’s how this is being applied today and it is totally wrong, and we’re losing the Christian foundation of our nation---if you want to see a totalitarian government, you want to see rights that are lost, and freedoms abused, then you lose the Christian heritage of this nation, and you go down the path that the liberals are taking us, and that’s where it’ll be found.

Mat Staver: In every totalitarian regime in world history, one of the first things it always sought to do was to suppress Christianity. That’s what happened in the former Soviet Union.

Gary DeMar: You go back to Nazi Germany, Martin Niemoller, a pastor in Germany, the Gestapo went into his church, stenographers took down what he had to say, and used that against him, and he ended up spending time in a concentration camp.

Tony Perkins: You will see that multiplied immensely if the congress is successful in passing the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and the Hate Crimes legislation. I mean, it’ll be discrimination on steroids - as they come after churches who refuse to hire homosexuals in their church office, in their schools, in their day-cares, or Christian business. And what it gives the radical homosexuals, those who are pushing this agenda, not all the homosexuals are out there trying to shove this down peoples throats. [Host: That’s why I like to always use the phrase militant homosexuals.] It is that group that will use this will the leverage of the hammer of the state, through the EEOC, to beat up on, beat into submission, businesses and churches, simply because of the intimidation and the cost factor associated with defending themselves.

Jordan Lorence: And to me, one of the most irritating things I find, is that guys like Mat Staver, and Jay Sekulow, and us, really have-are not committed to personal liberty. And that what we do is sort of this means to the end, and then once we take over, we’re going to impose this Taliban type rule and make everybody slap on [Host: The armband.], you know, uh, stars of David, I think that’s what he meant, not armbands, I think they wore stars of David. And I would say, you look at the cases that Liberty Counsel is doing, and the Alliance Defense Fund, and the American Center for Law and Justice, and there is more of a commitment to traditional American civil liberties, than the ACLU and the homosexual activists, who are into coercing unwilling people to do things, and to silence them, and all of that. There is an authoritarianism to that, that they are in total denial about, and they masquerade it, and then say that we’re the fascists, and I just find that very offensive, and totally inaccurate.

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Just like the thief who thinks everyone is stealing from them...
Just like the liar who thinks everyone is lying to them...
Jordan Lorence of the Alliance Defense Fund thinks...

the ACLU and the homosexual activists, who are into coercing unwilling people to do things, and to silence them, and all of that. There is an authoritarianism to that, that they are in total denial about

It’s called projection Jordan, look it up.
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Mat Staver: In every totalitarian regime in world history, one of the first things it always sought to do was to suppress Christianity.

World history, a scant 2000 years old.
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And finally (at least as far as I'm running with this), FRC's Tony Perkins:

Tony Perkins: And what it gives the radical homosexuals, those who are pushing this agenda, not all the homosexuals are out there trying to shove this down peoples throats.

Host: That’s why I like to always use the phrase "militant homosexuals."

Once again, let’s get this code-speak straight:

If you are gay, and believe you deserve equal protection under the law, you are automatically a "homosexual activist." Because just by being alive, you "seek" protection.

If you are gay and are actively working toward equal protection for all gays, then you are a "militant homosexual activist."

If you are gay and not "trying to shove this down peoples throats," then you are in the closet.

And once again, no, you B’s and T’s are not included in the discussion (and I‘d bet my house that when they‘re talking about “homosexuals,” they’re only talking about we G’s. So unfortunately, you monogamous L’s don’t count either.).

But there's always tomorrow... ;)